[ragel-users] additional plans for 7.0

Adrian Thurston thurston at complang.org
Sat Mar 9 15:30:37 UTC 2013


If the intermediate language doesn't have high-level constructs then 
we're going to be compiling them out, only to have to bring them back 
for the transformation to the target languages (C, Java, Ruby, etc). 
That strikes me as the wrong approach.

On 13-03-08 06:21 AM, ragel-user at jgoettgens.de wrote:
> Yes, but does it hurt? My understanding is that you are using a
> transformation tool anyway. Personally I would say that a lower level
> description is a perfect match for an FSM, which would also give you
> more freedom to implement the characterics of a higher level language.
> If the intermediate language is already at a fairly high level, anything
> derived from that probably soon faces the problem of the lowest common
> denominator.
>
> There are decompilers available for CIL that typically generate C# code.
> As a start, one could look at them to see how they deal with the code
> generation.
>
> I have not looked at Colm yet, but some time ago I played with txl. Txl
> seems to be more suitable for text based transformations. Working with
> CIL probably asks for implementing sequences of tree transformations at
> a binary level until you arrive at something that can easily be printed
> out as native source code.
>
> This way one could easily support native looking C++, Lisp, or FORTRAN
> 77 (not really). CIL byte code is more or less language independent.
>
> I would have a personal interest in this kind of low level stuff, so I
> could contribute more than usual.
>
> jg
>
>
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